Curse

Master Ketsu · May 08, 2007, 05:58 AM // 05:58

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Yes expertise lowers the cost but successive use of this skill its still extremely costly. Why would u be throwing away points in marksmanship? 13 Expertise, 16 Marksmanship and whatever else in wilderness.
With these stats with none druids armour u can still only fire about 1/2 concussion shots off rapidly since they cost 12 energy.

With the signet u can fire numerious ones off, allowing u to fire it mulitple times (either due to the 1st one missing or when facing numerous casters etc. and still be able to use otehr attack skills.

There are better ways. Read my previous post on page 27.

blue.rellik · May 08, 2007, 06:04 AM // 06:04

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Originally Posted by legacyofkain85

Hmm u must be jokeing right

ok barage , u must try it with rit secondary and splinter weapon if u manage to get a full barage the dmg it does on a pilled up mob is skyrocketing

shield of judgement=the main dmg skill in invinci monk farming builds u can also use it with a smiting based monk and the ranger spirit brambles

ss ,hmm same as shiled of judgement but it is used very mouch and not only for farming ,(ss spiker in doa anyone)

dragon slash+soon and moon slash and 15 swordsmanship+"For Great Justice!"=spamable atacks

i do agree on eviscerate well it was good ,once it had the same dmg as executioner strike but not so good for an elite atm u can pull out the same effect using wearing strike and avatar of melandru on a dervish

as for grenth balance hmm i agree with u it is practicaly unused in pve except for some farming scenarios

Your sarcasm detection skills could do some work

And Eviscerate is like one of the best warrior elites in the game

Kiji · May 09, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14

The worst skills i've ever seen:
[skill]Expert's Dexterity[/skill]
[skill]Mark of Insecurity[/skill]

- Probably the second still as some use, but the first... Well, unless you combine it with EW, that elite its the perfect self-energy-denial. :| So, because you depend to much on a spirit that can be killed quickly, for me, thats the worst skill ever.

Correct Jeans · May 09, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Dinkytowner

If anyone has found a use for Spoil Victor I would love to hear it. Until then it gets my vote.

Shiro. Why havnt u thought of that?

Chrono Re delle Ere · May 12, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Man there are many useless warrior elites....as Soldier's Stance....wtf, why I should use an elite for +33% attack rate (only if I'm under a shout or a song ) when I can simply use flail+rush? It's just pointless....or as another example of totally useless warrior elite we can choose Warrior's Endurance....and if you want to hear about the most crappy elite attack skill EVER, u should point at Decapitate....too many malus for me, crazy dmg, but too many malus.

Lourens · May 16, 2007, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Worst elite - Broad Head Arrow

Concussion Shot FTW !

pooface_po · May 16, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41

[skill]Plague Signet[/skill]

Another Idiot · May 20, 2007, 09:32 AM // 09:32

plague signet???
haven't heard of draw conditions+plague signet, I think.

Soul of the Scythe · May 24, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

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Originally Posted by Dinkytowner

If anyone has found a use for Spoil Victor I would love to hear it. Until then it gets my vote.

Any creature that has more health than you. Shiro especially. Mine at 18 Blood Magic did 920 damage to him each time he attacked with impossible odds and battle scars on. I also recieved this as healing. He went from about 30% health to dead in 2 attacks. It works on pretty much any boss and the less health you have, the better. Damn good for farming bosses.

street peddler · Jun 06, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

[skill]clamor of souls[/skill]

this skill makes no sense...if all these allies and foes are nearby...just use ancestors rage or spirit rift (despite the 3 second delay it can be used for a nice spike)

JDRyder · Jun 08, 2007, 10:21 AM // 10:21

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Originally Posted by lilnate22

wow....
ok go find a use for quivering blade... wich is the same as glarath or silverwing xceot if u miss it is disabled and u are dazed....

go ahead find a use for that skill

zomg ur a dazed waamo o no!!! how will u use healing hands mending and healing sig zomg ur so F***ed>_>

Cassius Brutus · Jun 08, 2007, 10:43 AM // 10:43

Quivering Blade is actually fairly good. Shouldn't even be mentioned as a worst elite.

Although cleave isnt actually bad, there's eviscerate.
Eviscerate>Cleave
Is there any point in cleave?

Cebe · Jun 08, 2007, 11:19 AM // 11:19

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Originally Posted by street peddler

[skill]clamor of souls[/skill]

this skill makes no sense...if all these allies and foes are nearby...just use ancestors rage or spirit rift (despite the 3 second delay it can be used for a nice spike)

This is one skill I would really like to use...but compared with Ancestor's Rage, a non elite, it's just rubbish. It needs seriously changing before it can get any use though...all I know is right now it does not deserve it's elite status.

All that being said I'm still not convinced it's the worse elite in the game.

[wiki]Air of Enchantment[/wiki] would be my current choice.

Sophitia Leafblade · Jun 08, 2007, 11:26 AM // 11:26

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

There are better ways. Read my previous post on page 27.

I did

and i agree there are other moethods of maintainence i wouldnt say they are better though. Your approach is conditional and it gains u energy rather than cutting the cost of skills. Any energy denial will make ur skills usless, with archers signet u can skill use them. Eg In RoF in the Wells u can still use several high damage attacks. Firing a Prepared shot may allow u to fire 1 more concussion shot, archers signet will allow u to fire several

whihc is very handy when ur trying to interupt a fast casting creature in HM, u can guess when there going to cast before they do and if u dont hit the spell u can try again on the next spell after it recharges rather than waiting longer to restore ur energy again.

[skill]Archer's Signet[/skill][skill]Read the wind[/skill][skill]Marauder's shot[/skill][skill]Concussion shot[/skill][skill]Penetrating Attack[/skill][skill]Savage Shot[/skill][skill]Throw Dirt[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]

There is a good synigy with Marauders shot too, if u use it straight after Archers signet while ur skills are disabled breifly they will have been restored to normal just after marauders shot is fired this stops the down side to Marauders (atleast for that 1st shot)

The advantage of Archers signet is u can fire off a good number of high energy attacks, until u get low of energy, use Archers signet, and u can fire off several more for free, while ur energy increases, and by the time archers signet runs out u have the energy to fire off more attacks. It can work in any energy denial area unlike using prepared shot or Melandrus Shot and its unconditional energy management so it works even against foes that cant be poisoned or Bleed like Jades.

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

[skill]Prepared shot[/skill]Turned out to be a superior choice, simply because I could skimp expertise and put 16 in marksmanship, and still have the elite-worthy energy management, and more damage.

And Prepared shot is giving you RAW energy to boot. Meaning its also more versatile then archers signet in that you can use prepared shot for other expenses.

I can still have 12+ in marksmanship and in 12 expertise

I wouldnt say prepared shot is more versatile, since its conditional although i do agree it allows u to have energy for other skills, but then again if ur skills cost less ur going to have the energy for those other skills anyways

shoogi · Jun 08, 2007, 06:47 PM // 18:47

I'd say Skull Crack.
it even costs 9 adrenaline omg

ShadowsRequiem · Jun 09, 2007, 03:32 AM // 03:32

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Originally Posted by JDRyder

zomg ur a dazed waamo o no!!! how will u use healing hands mending and healing sig zomg ur so F***ed>_>

haha that made me lol...

Quivering blade is awesome for dps as you can spam a bunch of 4 adrenline skills.
daze does nothing to a warrior, he must be some dumb w/n using life siphon or raising minions!

holababe · Jun 09, 2007, 03:59 AM // 03:59

[skill]Glimmering Mark[/skill] imo
I haven't seen it used yet.

blue.rellik · Jun 09, 2007, 10:24 AM // 10:24

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Originally Posted by JDRyder

zomg ur a dazed waamo o no!!! how will u use healing hands mending and healing sig zomg ur so F***ed>_>

Dazed doesn't affect Healing sigbet

elektra_lucia · Jun 09, 2007, 10:33 AM // 10:33

Amity.

It is rubbish.

jrk247 · Jun 09, 2007, 11:05 AM // 11:05

[skill]Decapitate[/skill] Pretty bad, if it's blocked you're screwed. It's just a damage buffed conditional Eviscerate.

[skill]Ravenous Gaze[/skill] Just an all around bad elite. If you don't get the bonus it's just like a weak Vamp Gaze.

[skill]Plague Signet[/skill] Shouldn't even be an elite if you ask me.

[skill]Second Wind[/skill] I don't even think this should be a normal skill.

[skill]Mist Form[/skill] So you just stand there?

Enchantment remover > MF